Balance: Items, equipment and weapons

Balance: Items, equipment and weapons

Ludovik 26 Oct 2009 10:26

Hello all,
I gave a look at this idea (more than a look :P), and it seems something very interesting, and I am quite excited about this.

Of course balance has different aspects and I am concentrating here on items importance in the game.
1) Will the player be able to using items during combat?
2) Will equipment be customizable? what about drop?
3) What about weapons?

We have seen to many games that are too much item-based and I am sure you do not want another game like this. Usable items (such as health potion, mana potion, etc.) are an important aspect to consider and I think we should talk about this.
Sincerely I do not like the introduction of this kind of items because I would prefer to base the pvp entirely on player's abilities, but I had to introduce this question to know what others think about this.
As I can see there will be no grindind so no PVE, this way we should introduce a new concept of drop (If we want to introduce this aspect).
I think equipment should be fully customizable, and should be something that give advantage to players but I want to explain better.
An experienced player/ group of players must be able to defeat another less experienced player/group of players no matter the equipment. At the same time Item bonus should exist but they should facilitate the combat (not make the combat itself).

I hope I can help in anyway in my possibilities,
Regards

Re: Balance: Items, equipment and weapons

chassor 26 Oct 2009 11:03

hello ludovik , good point.

i think we all agree about items balance

much premium items are for game revenue , we all understand that i think , but much game go to far and give paying player a huge advantage , this is of course bad. i'm against premium items or drops , we should all have access to same stuff, armor and weapons should have multipliers (so i can have same armor/weapons to any lvl (i have X protection my armor give me X*multiplier) ).

but if devs decide to go this way , we must think about some other way to bring revenues here is my idea:

make repairing armor weapon a bit a pain in the butt

ex: repairing need high grade nanostuff wich can only obtain by doing (boring) tasks (those high grade nanotech cannot be traded) and make people who pay to have no need to repair , this way we will have no items balance problem and we can have cash flow for the needs we will have (what about 4/5euros/months) ?

and of course yes well coordinate players should kick ass to less coordinate ones.

Edité la dernière fois le 26 Oct 2009 11:06 par chassor Montrer plus

Re: Balance: Items, equipment and weapons

n1ght 04 Nov 2009 11:25

I think it's too early to talk about premium stuff because the game is not even playable, and imo stuff that would bring money should be something people want to buy, not something they have to buy (like in regnum).

Anyway, about items (armor, etc), I think there should be 2 types of armor that have influence on stats: noob armor (the one you get at beginning of the game) and full armor (the one you can create when you get enough materials). Both armor types can be upgradeable with stuff like +hp or +skill-tree or stuff like that. As for other armors, they should have full armor stats just different looks and requirements to make.

As for items, you could get them from quests or maybe from looting dead enemy (he wouldn't drop his own item, but system would generate a random drop).

Re: Balance: Items, equipment and weapons

chassor 04 Nov 2009 12:02

Night i really don't like the drop ideas , let's base the game on skills not on items , same weapons/same armor for all , simple as it .

i'm not telling we must go premium right now , thinking about it will not make it mandatory but can ease the process later if the mechanism is still implemented , if we give all armor access to players and then change the things later , i let you imagine the flame in the game forum … (just see where you know).

Re: Balance: Items, equipment and weapons

n1ght 04 Nov 2009 12:18

well if everyone can easily get good items (like in every normal rpg) then game is still balanced, regardless of how powerful those items are. Anyway, you can't just war because of war, you need some more incentives, and imo drops would be a nice one. We just need to think out the bonuses and put it all in balance, then it's not a big deal.